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The Primer Problem: Why Discipleship Isn't Sticking | Jamie Winship

By Ordinary Movement

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Summary

The core problem in the Christian space is the struggle between empire thinking (fear, power, control, scarcity) and kingdom thinking (love, service, abundance), which hinders genuine discipleship by focusing on external performance rather than internal identity and relationship with God.

Key Points

  • The primary issue addressed is the conflict between 'empire thinking,' characterized by fear, power, competition, and scarcity, and 'kingdom thinking,' which embodies love, service, and abundance. 
  • Empire thinking, prevalent in both secular and religious contexts, leads to a worldview of separation and scarcity, where individuals believe they are lacking and must strive to acquire. 
  • A key aspect of kingdom living is learning to receive from God, starting with asking how God wants to serve you, which is counterintuitive to the self-protective and self-promoting nature of empire thinking. 
  • The concept of 'stuckness' is a fear-based falsehood; true stuckness arises from believing lies about oneself, such as 'I am not enough,' which is a core tenet of empire thinking. 
  • Traditional discipleship often falls short by focusing on 'producing' for God (converts, income) rather than 'becoming' who God created you to be, leading to a performance-based faith. 
  • True discipleship is about becoming who God made you to be, which requires an experiential relationship with Christ, not just performing religious activities or converting others. 
  • This empire mindset infiltrates discipleship, causing people to feel 'stuck' because they focus on external actions and performance rather than their identity in Christ and how to hear from God. 
  • Jesus's discipleship focused on teaching his followers *how* to know what to do by hearing from the Father, rather than simply dictating actions, enabling them to navigate complex situations. 
  • Hearing from God involves asking Him questions, listening to His responses through scripture, impressions, and ideas, and discerning them based on their consistency with His word and their fruit of love, joy, and peace, not fear or shame. 
  • Confession, in this context, is reframed as 'truth-telling' about one's identity in Christ, rather than just admitting to sins, which leads to mind change (repentance) and ultimately form change (transformation). 
The Primer Problem: Why Discipleship Isn't Sticking | Jamie Winship

The Primer Problem: Why Discipleship Isn't Sticking | Jamie Winship

The core problem in the Christian space is the struggle between empire thinking (fear, power, control, scarcity) and kingdom thinking (love, service, abundance), which hinders genuine discipleship by focusing on external performance rather than internal identity and relationship with God.

Key Points

—The primary issue addressed is the conflict between 'empire thinking,' characterized by fear, power, competition, and scarcity, and 'kingdom thinking,' which embodies love, service, and abundance.
—Empire thinking, prevalent in both secular and religious contexts, leads to a worldview of separation and scarcity, where individuals believe they are lacking and must strive to acquire.
—A key aspect of kingdom living is learning to receive from God, starting with asking how God wants to serve you, which is counterintuitive to the self-protective and self-promoting nature of empire thinking.
—The concept of 'stuckness' is a fear-based falsehood; true stuckness arises from believing lies about oneself, such as 'I am not enough,' which is a core tenet of empire thinking.
—Traditional discipleship often falls short by focusing on 'producing' for God (converts, income) rather than 'becoming' who God created you to be, leading to a performance-based faith.
—True discipleship is about becoming who God made you to be, which requires an experiential relationship with Christ, not just performing religious activities or converting others.
—This empire mindset infiltrates discipleship, causing people to feel 'stuck' because they focus on external actions and performance rather than their identity in Christ and how to hear from God.
—Jesus's discipleship focused on teaching his followers *how* to know what to do by hearing from the Father, rather than simply dictating actions, enabling them to navigate complex situations.
—Hearing from God involves asking Him questions, listening to His responses through scripture, impressions, and ideas, and discerning them based on their consistency with His word and their fruit of love, joy, and peace, not fear or shame.
—Confession, in this context, is reframed as 'truth-telling' about one's identity in Christ, rather than just admitting to sins, which leads to mind change (repentance) and ultimately form change (transformation).
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